>Robert Wrubel wrote:
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>>I notice that we are just as bloody in war as any of
>>Homer's heroes (more so, in fact, because more
>>de-personalized.) Are our "humanitarian"
>>justifications for war more civilized than Homer's
>>"honor"?
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>Accepting (provisionally) your use of "civilized" as a positive, the
>high point of civilization to date is Book 24 of the Iliad.
>
Not if you're a woman.
Joanna