Kinda interesting that nobody tried the same defense when the Soviets claimed that they had no homosexuals.
--- Michael Smith <mjs at smithbowen.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 11:56 -0400, Doug Henwood
> wrote:
> > On Sep 25, 2007, at 5:50 PM, Michael Smith wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 17:02 -0400, Charles Brown
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> is it possible that he, like the ancient Greeks
> that we're all
> > >> supposed to admire so much, doesn't see
> homosexual people as existing
> > >> as much as homosexual _behaviors_ that some
> engage in?
> > >
> > > This was exactly Yoshie's original point, if I
> understood
> > > her correctly.
> >
> > Yeah that's her point, but how do we know that's
> where Ahmadinejad is
> > coming from?
>
> We don't know, of course. Yoshie (and, si licet
> magnis componere
> parvos, I) is/are trying to figure out what he might
> have meant.
> The reason his statement seems to need some parsing
> is that if
> it's understood in the conventional way, then
> Ahmadinejad is
> claiming that nobody does same-sex sex in Iran.
> Which would
> be so prodigiously silly it's hard to believe
> _anybody_ would
> say it.
>
> Assessing semantic intent is always conjectural.
> Where
> conversations are taking place through two-way
> translation
> across a considerable cultural gap, it's unwise to
> conclude the
> other party is a fool or a loon when you find
> something he
> says startling.
>
> I'm actually just sitting here listening to A's
> speech.
> He sounds a lot less foolish and loony -- and much
> better-bred --
> than Lee Bollinger.
>
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