[lbo-talk] Last Supper, in a leather harness

John Thornton jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Sep 28 16:53:09 PDT 2007


ravi wrote:
> On 28 Sep, 2007, at 15:33 PM, Doug Henwood wrote:
>
>> Since atheists are the most disparaged "religious" group in the U.S.
>> - polling well below Muslims and queers - I don't see why the
>> nonreligious are supposed to be so solicitous of the feelings of the
>> religious. At least in the U.S. They're the dominant group, and they
>> should be nice to us.
>>
>>
>
> Only if grouping by religious belief has some impact on social order,
> power relationships, ability to realise one's potential, etc, etc.
> The truth is more probably that atheism is a luxury of over-educated
> comparatively wealthy intellectual brats, while religion is the last
> resort of the poor and the working classes. I would wager that there
> is even today a significant portion of the "religious" who think of
> god or go to church for a moment of peace and comfort, to hope for a
> second for some relief, some higher order, meaning, purpose. They
> don't dominate much when it comes to atheists (especially the non-gay
> white male variety, which also happens to be the group that claims to
> speak for the entire clan -- hence my reference to Hitchens and
> Dawkins, and you might as well throw in Dennett).
>
> --ravi

Is this tongue-in-cheek? Based on your previous writings I guess it is but you wouldn't know it from this post. I don't know if Hitchens, Dennett, Dawkins claim they speak for the entire clan. I didn't get that from Dawkins or Hitchens books specifically on atheism but maybe I missed something. I also don't know what their sexual orientation or skin color has to do with anything in this light. Certainly race and gender color our perspective of a great many things but to consider it instrumental in forming opinions of this nature seems a bit much. Your attempts are sarcasm are difficult to discern via email which is not altogether friendly to that method of communication. Even if tongue-in-cheek you do seem to have more animosity directed toward those of Dawkins ilk than would seem warranted. I'll take the atheists over the superstitious in most instances.

John Thornton



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