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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>My own experience is that leftists hate on kinky BDSM sex ALL the time,
maybe even more than honkie <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">america</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
I've gotten in so many arguments about this with radicals over the years.
It's so strange. Why do so many leftos have mean things to say about
BDSM? Can someone on this list make whatever argument there is to make,
about BDSM being bad or fundamentally oppressive or whatever? I just
can't imagine what intellectual content there could be to any such assertion. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>[WS:] I do not want to speak for other leftos,
but I do NOT hate kinky BDSM (except when it involves exploitation or harming of
others against their will,) albeit this is not my cup of tea either (based on
experience). It is not even high on my priority list. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>What I definitely dislike, however, is a
particular strategy, often adopted by lefto activists, of shaming or even
attacking those who do not accept their points of view. This relates to
all kinds of lefty causes, not just BDSM or homosexuality. My own
position is that if I want someone’s support, I first need to show respect
for that person and his/her opinions, instead of shaming or insulting
them. I also expect the same from others.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Wojtek<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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