yeah, let's stick with pragmatism.... it worked so well in the last two elections...<br><br><b><i>andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> I am aware of Obama's limitations. But it already says<br>something that the conservative press feels it has to<br>race bait him as an Ayrab terrorist rather than as a<br>black man. He's also not quite as centrist as you are<br>making out -- he's not a Clinton (Bill or Hilary), he<br>record in Illinois is pretty good; he's now running on<br>having opposed the war; it's true his style is highly<br>conciliatory and he opposes conflict and will not<br>fight hard for things we want and need. But does have<br>a gift for winning over conservatives without<br>pandering to them, basically by making it seem as (and<br>maybe it is true) that he really listens. And the<br>candidates who support the
positions we like --<br>Edwards to some degree, Kuchinich -- poll in the<br>single digits and have no choice. So insofar as one is<br>going to play presidential game at all, at the present<br>it's Obama or Hilary, and he's way better and has a<br>far better chance. She's way too polarizing. Usual<br>caveats about spineless and untrustworthy Democrats.<br><br><br>--- Doug Henwood <dhenwood @panix.com=""> wrote:<br><br>> <br>> On Jan 20, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Michael Pollak wrote:<br>> <br>> > On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Doug Henwood wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> His name - Barack Hussein Obama - will do the<br>> rest of the work. Is <br>> >> there any way a dark-skinned man with a name like<br>> that could ever <br>> >> get elected?<br>> ><br>> > But conversely, for that very reason, if he could,<br>> wouldn't it mean <br>> > something?<br>> <br>> Yeah, it'd mean the American people could swallow<br>>
post-political <br>> centrism in an all-new wrapper.<br>> <br>> Doug<br>> ___________________________________<br>><br>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk<br>> <br><br><br><br> <br>____________________________________________________________________________________<br>Have a burning question? <br>Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.<br>___________________________________<br>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk<br></dhenwood></blockquote><br><p> 
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