<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> joanna wrote: <blockquote cite="mid45F20013.9080604@comcast.net" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">If Doug meant that using the phrase "for the hell of it" as a pro-choice slogan makes him uncomfortable I have no issue with that. Tactically that slogan would be a huge error. If Doug had meant he was personally made uncomfortable by the idea of abortion for the hell of it that is another thing entirely. I see that Doug has clarified his position to mean he opposes the phrase as a slogan of some sort. I don't however know if the idea makes him uncomfortable or not. I can think of no good reason it should. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">OK. What about a woman who is eight months pregnant and she starts hearing voices, perhaps God's, telling her to have an abortion. ?? Joanna</pre> </blockquote> Unquestionably she gets to have an abortion. While I have serious doubts there is an omnipotent being who has requested she have this done no harm is done to anyone if she does this. That makes it none of my business. We have to define human life as beginning somewhere. Obviously it does not begin the moment of conception. A human life is one that is living physically separate from another. Extreme cases make bad laws as they say so one discounts conjoined persons sometimes, but not always. I could add more to it but won't here. I have a very old fashioned view of what constitutes a person. I know Carrol has stated that the fetus should be considered no more than a growth like a polyp or some such analogy. I have a similar viewpoint only probably both more so and less so. John Thornton </body> </html>