<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Dennis Claxton wrote: <blockquote cite="mid200703092143.l29LhCsC028954@flpvm09.prodigy.net" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">John wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Wouldn't a radically pro-abortion supporter give no thought to why a woman wished to have an abortion? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I would think a radically pro-abortion supporter would give a lot of thought to this. It's those who are anti-abortion who don't think about the reasons a woman would want to have an abortion. As far as they're concerned there is no reason to have an abortion so there is no reason to think about it. </pre> </blockquote> That depends on how you mean "no thought". I am not made comfortable or uncomfortable for whatever reason a woman chooses to have an abortion. It is none of my business. There are no valid and invalid reasons, only valid reasons. Since they are all valid I give them no thought in the sense that I pass no judgments on them. That does not mean I do not care about whatever suffering the decision making process may be for someone or that I do not care a persons well being. What difference should it make to me if a woman in Iowa wants an abortion because she just ended a relationship with a man and no longer wants their child or a woman in Oregon wants an abortion because of a failed birth control method. Why they want the abortion is unimportant in deciding the "validity" of their desire to have one. <blockquote cite="mid200703092143.l29LhCsC028954@flpvm09.prodigy.net" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">What makes you uncomfortable about "for the hell of it"? Are there good and bad reasons to choose abortion? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I think the point is there are good and bad ways of expressing a pro-abortion position. Abortion "for the hell of it" is not going to win friends and influence people.</pre> </blockquote> If Doug meant that using the phrase "for the hell of it" as a pro-choice slogan makes him uncomfortable I have no issue with that. Tactically that slogan would be a huge error. If Doug had meant he was personally made uncomfortable by the idea of abortion for the hell of it that is another thing entirely. I see that Doug has clarified his position to mean he opposes the phrase as a slogan of some sort. I don't however know if the idea makes him uncomfortable or not. I can think of no good reason it should. John Thornton </body> </html>