[lbo-talk] LBO's Union Experts, I Call Upon Ye!

Joseph Catron jncatron at gmail.com
Wed Apr 16 14:36:56 PDT 2008


These theories all sound good, but if anyone looks at the actual numbers in Kate Bronfenbrenner and Robert Hickey's Blueprint for Change, they'll see that successful organizing can be done in any industry. It simply requires sufficient resources to run broad, comprehensive campaigns - resources that SEIU, UNITE HERE, and a few others have committed, while the overwhelming majority have not.

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Wojtek Sokolowski <swsokolowski at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Marvin Gandall <marvgandall at videotron.ca> wrote:
>
> > These are always fair questions, and whether the
> > failures are essentially
> > ones of leadership, as you maintain, or objective
> > ones pertaining to the
> > nature of the workforce (eg. dispersed and transient
> > vs concentrated or in
> > short supply), the working conditions (eg. white
> > collar vs. blue collar),
> > and the relative bargaining power of the two sides -
> > as the unions with
> > jurisdiction would undoubtedly claim - these
> > questions can really only be
> > answered by those with knowledge of these industries
> > and the considerations
> > which have shaped the union responses. Certainly,
> > I'm not in a position to
> > know, and neither I suspect are most of the people
> > on this list with very
> > definite opinions on these matters.
>
> [WS:] Looking at the objective conditions in which
> union organizing occurs is a very good idea, indeed.
> To the ones that you mention, I would also add
> generalized social norms, values and expectations that
> aid or impede collective action. Unions tend to
> thrive in societies that put more value on collective
> action and social solidarity - but the US is not one
> of them.



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