[lbo-talk] Putin's Petro-Imperialism

boddi satva lbo.boddi at gmail.com
Tue Aug 12 15:34:52 PDT 2008


Believe me, I could never over-estimate the political effectiveness of this group to the extent (absurdly) charged - and I include myself in that group.

It is a question of rhetoric and the knee-jerk backing of Putin here is ridiculous.

I was pointing out that it's also offensive both to serious Progressive and to serious Marxist ideas.

A thug like Putin is no foe of imperialism. He's a classic Russian imperialist. That's more or less his job, as he sees it. And I guess the Russian people see it the same way.

And I'm pretty sure the Chechen, Ukrainian, Georgian, Armenian, Azerbaijani, etc., people see it a different way.

The Ossetians, Abkhaz and maybe even the Kurds are no doubt thrilled to have a nuclear-powered military champion on their side. Maybe they should ask the Afghans how that worked out for them.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:01 PM, John Thornton <jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Dwayne Monroe wrote:
>>
>> boddhi:
>>
>> And as much as I would like to see world socialism, I do NOT think the
>> way to get there is to oppose
>> financial capitalism by backing thugs and religious zealots.
>>
>> ..................
>>
>>
>> Since none of us has clout to wield or ordinance to ship it's safe to
>> say that no one's 'backing' anyone.
>>
>> All we're doing is talking about the situation. Which, as it happens,
>> is all we can do.
>>
>>
>> There's an entertaining sort of big headedness in the idea that what's
>> going on here is a discussion of who we should be 'backing'.
>>
>>
>> .d.
>
>
> That's what you think.
> I just sent Putin $10 as my way of "backing" him.
> I'm sure he'll take my phone calls now.
>
> John Thornton
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