Toonces, the driving cat
>>>> <lbo-talk-request at lbo-talk.org> 08/19/08 7:36 AM >>>
>
> Is this paroxysm of nationalist passion on the list going to carry on
> indefinitely? Look, it's pretty simple isn't it?
>
> 1. Countries with imperial ambitions (all capitalist nation states with
> any sort of muscle) are pretty nasty and they also get into conflict
> with one another from time to time.
> 2. However, liking the underdog and disliking the bully, we sometimes
> hope that the biggest and baddest of these gets a bloody nose from time
> to time to stop it from becoming too arrogant.
> 3. However this international conflict is a bad thing, always a bad
> thing (inestimable suffering etc).
> 4. And we recognise that ultimately another capitalist country (its
> ruling class actually) will eventually beat the super bad and in its
> turn become the baddest of the bad; we don't know which one yet.
> 5. Alternatively, they may wipe all of us out with nuclear weapons or
> some other as yet unknown horror.
>
> If only because of no. 5, we should surely be talking (at least
> occasionally) about the possibility of a different world system and how
> we might get from here to there. Surely one can agree with these
> propositions, even if one is not a communist, but any sort of leftist at
> all? But apparently not? Apparently we would rather 'root' (one of my
> least favourite Americanisms!) for our favourite side. Home run!
> Touchdown! Blam! Blam! Aaargh!!!
>
> Tahir
>
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