[lbo-talk] The 'BRIC' countries as a new 'pole' in the global order - A bubble trade?

[boddi satva]

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:02 AM,  <dredmond at efn.org> wrote:
> On Thu, August 21, 2008 5:25 pm, boddi satva wrote:
>
>> But these structures you describe don't seem to be trans-capitalist
>> but pre-capitalist.
>
> Neither trans nor pre, but post.
>
> The developmental state is the gateway of 21st century socialism. This is
> the fundamental reality of contemporary geopolitics.

A) The "developmental state" as you describe it is the ahistorical
nexus of change in every phase of political-economic development.
Certainly it was from feudalism to capitalism.

B) While I certainly believe that there is a post-capitalist
developmental state. I just don't see it in the BRIC countries. There,
I see the developmental state primarily aimed at the establishment of
liberal-democratic and financial capitalist norms - and for good
reason: that's where the money is. I see *an* argument that the
post-capitalist developmental state might logically arise in the BRIC
countries, I just don't find the argument or the evidence persuasive.

C) Call me a doctrinaire stagist if you like, but I accept that "the
developmental state is the gateway of 21st century socialism" and that
"This is the fundamental reality of contemporary geopolitics." I just
don't see any evidence that the BRIC countries are or even should be
in the vanguard of that change.


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