> 'We' had some effect in regard to civil rights, Southeast Asia, and Central
> America.
Very true. Perhaps I didn't make myself quite clear. I wasn't claiming that 'we' were necessarily ineffectual. what I was wondering about was how "our government" could be considered "ours" -- except of course in the objective- genitive sense: it governs us.
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