[lbo-talk] Chavez: slow down

[Eric]

>Really? The Zapatistas have been at it for more than a decade with 
>worldwide attention - and Mexico has had two right-wing presidents in 
>a row. This anti-statist stuff, as charming as it is (and I really
>mean that), is a dead end.

I know we've been at this before, so it's probably not very 
productive, but oh well. You want to evaluate, eg, the Zapatistas, 
who are trying to create something more or less "new" in politics, 
but you use political criteria that are at least 100 years old? The 
Zapatistas want to NOT take state power, but you criticize them 
because of who has taken control of the Mexican state? That's doesn't 
make any fucking sense. The point of antistatism isn't to get elected 
the best possible CEO of the state. It's to practice politics that 
sidesteps the state as much as possible. Duh.