[lbo-talk] O-bomb-a's economic advisers

shag shag at cleandraws.com
Fri Jan 25 04:47:59 PST 2008


At 10:59 PM 1/24/2008, Michael Pollak wrote:


>On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> > I realize it's like parsing the levels of hell but BHO seems worse than
> > HRC.
>
>Certainly based on his recent pronouncements, he seems a small but
>significant bit to the right of HRC on virtually everything -- economic
>policy, social policy and foreign policy.
>
>But now that lbo-talk has done a very good job of nailing the guy, let me
>make a devil's advocate case for him just for the fun of it. It'll be a
>bit outlandish of a case, but what do you expect? The facts are against
>me -- that's what makes it intellectually challenging :o)
>
>nd that alternative case can be summed up in one word: charisma.

yah. but the message is a terrifying one. I can't say right now that it's more terrifying than Clinton's but from what I've read of his speeches, while I wouldn't call it fascism, I think Carrol is very correct about this: Obama's charismatic leadership -- his use of rhetoric (which is very dependent on reptition -- what others, analyzing Catherine MacKinnon's rhetoric, have called the copula) -- lays the groundwork for a kind of patriotic nationalism that is deeply disturbing.

The we he must constantly construct is always, always resting on a surbordinated them. It is *only* in the US that someone like him could run for president. It is *only* in the US that we call out, "Yes we can!". That "Yes we can speech" unifies the abolitionists and blacks' struggles to liberate themselves from slavery with white women' struggleds (who reached for a ballot - as if history stopped in 1920 was it?) with immigrants who settled in burgeoning cities with settlers in a westward expansion -- all without acknowledging who got rolled over in that expansion.

He speaks as if upward mobility is only possible in the US. As if the unifying we is completely ingrained in the U.S., its manifest destiny, in a way it cannot be anywhere else. Only in the U.S. Only US. We.

What was that novel or maybe non-fiction book called, which had I think a more rightwing analysis of fascism? The title was _We_?

While Charles doesn't think it's possible for a black man to be a representative for a movement that will embrace fascist ideology, we don't have to call it that. It's just hyper-nationalism, hyper-patriotism. The unify the divided we, there's the Other than must be put down, trampled over, constructed as less than the United We -- and not by accident, but by design. He describes as "Our" special "destiny".

Of course, Clinton and others do all these things. They just lack charisma.

And I think it's perfectly possible for blacks and lots of people of color here in the u.s. to embrace that. The book I'm reading right now, and others, are talking about the way the Black Nationalist movement constructs its we, by never getting outside a hegemonic discourse (since the tools of criticism are provided by that hegemonic discourse anyway). But, what comes of that is the unification of the "we" by people who have no power, has the same dynamic of the "we" constructed by whites.

What gives it its progressive edge, says E Francis White, drawing on a long tradition of such analyses, is that Black Nationalists have no power. But other than that? There's nothing particularly remarkable in its "counterdiscourse". Meet the new boss, same as the old -- to use a cliche b/c I have too much blood inmy caffeine system right now. And so nationalizing counterdiscourses bring their own "politics of respectability" upholding bourgeois notions of proper heterosexuality, the proper role (subordinate) of women, etc. etc.

That's not the content of Obama's message. My point is that whatever shred of a counterdiscourse contained in Obama's rhetoric rests on a dynamic of unifying a "we" that utterly needs subordinated Others -- people, ideas, beliefs. E.g., if he wants the peeps and their government to no longer feel the pain of being torn assunder, the way to do that is to marginalize left critique as 'excess' -- even as he depends on that critique to carry out the unification of the "we".

yours in jouissance,

shag


>Charisma is something that leftists generally hate to talk about it because
>it's squishy. But as Weber showed at great length, it can be an important
>independent factor, causing things that wouldn't have happened otherwise,
>and later being "routinized" into a set path.
>
>And I think you can make the case that this is essentially what Reagan did
>for the Republicans. Democrats often bemoan how the Republicans welded
>together factions that should, in nature, hate each other, but for some
>reason in their case, the antagonistic factions never get welded. And
>compressing a whole line of argument, I think you can make a case that
>Reagan is the man who did this and charisma is how he did it. That his
>one real genius was his speaking voice and facial expressions, and that
>that alone is why people from all the various Republican factions
>cathected to him and have stayed cathected. Even now, when that coalition
>is clearly fraying, the only thing the Repugs can think of is to use his
>name as an incantation. And to some extent it even still works, since if
>you can convince Republicans you are Reagan's legatee, they're disposed to
>like you, no matter which faction they come from. Because you're evoking
>something that is still a part of their identity.
>
>Another aspect of his charisma was his teflon quality which drove leftists
>(like me) to the point of distraction. No matter what he did or said,
>nothing seemed to tarnish him.
>
>And this brings us the third aspect, which is that large numbers of people
>voted for him even though they completely disagreed with him on the
>issues. They assumed he must represent their wishes because they projected
>their hopes onto him. That's the power of charisma.
>
>You can probably see where I'm going with this. Obama's charisma has
>different sources, but my impression from the campaign trail is that it is
>as great as anything we've ever seen. It has the same maddening quality
>as all charisma: it clouds men's minds. It makes them think he's for what
>they're for even if he's against it. And it allows him slide teflon like
>away from criticism.
>
>And if this is the charisma he has on the campaign trail, I shudder to
>think what it will be like once he's wrapped in the magic of an office
>that has made monkeys seem wrapped in reverence the moment they step into
>it. FOBW, Obama seems to already have more charisma than most presidents
>have after their elected.
>
>So the argument for him would be this: if you accept that the differences
>between him and Clinton are tiny and based on the most evanescent evidence
>(on campaign statements that no one expects anyone to keep and which
>everyone knows are spin jobs in the first place); and that if past
>practice is any guide, their policy will probably diverge drastically from
>what they campaign on; and that the policy arc they end up will probably
>in the end be pretty much the same, since they've got the same think
>tanks, the same pressure groups and the same balance of forces; then the
>only real difference between the candidates will be how well they sell it.
>
>And in addition to this, Obama holds out the hope of doing for the
>Democrats what Reagan did for the Republicans: welding the factions that
>hate each other into an enduring whole; and adding a fatty layer of people
>in the middle (Obama democrats, they'll be called); all by the force of
>his charisma.
>
>On this argument, the Republicans didn't have any more ideas in 1980 than
>the Democrats have now, and they weren't any less sectarian or wonky.
>But what made their ideas into enduring national common sense was Reagan's
>ability to simplify them while speaking them in that trust-inspiring voice
>and resonating with the vocabulary of the past. And then winning on it.
>
>Now, of course, if you hate both parties, the idea of the Democrats
>becoming a more coherent party wouldn't make you any happier -- and even
>less if they pulled off this feat a few steps to the right of where they
>are now.
>
>And doubly of course, this is *very* speculative off the wall line of
>argument.
>
>But it's the best I could come up with! :o)
>
>Michael
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