[lbo-talk] $10 a gallon gas - in Norway

Gar Lipow the.typo.boy at gmail.com
Wed Jul 23 12:14:17 PDT 2008


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Julio Huato <juliohuato at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The direction of change for us is to re-frame the problem. More to
> the point, it is to have the rich shoulder the costs and the poor reap
> most of the benefits, as much as we possibly can. This, by whichever
> mean may be politically feasible and expedient: fiscal policies,
> industrial policies, trade policies, change in collective habits,
> forceful expropriation, whatever. We need to change many minds,
> including our own minds, to make possible these necessary changes in
> the time left.

Which actually brings us back to what Jordan says. He is halfway there. Progressive taxation is indeed critical. The other half of that is large scale public investment - really large scale in the hundreds of billion. A lot of these could indeed have benefits that meet the larger need while immediately helping people. Highly subsidized (even 100% subsidized) insulation and weather sealing packages. The average combined heating and electric bill is not much lower than the monthly cost of filling gas tanks, and a lot of the rural poor pay more in utility bills than they do filling gas tanks. We really can't do much to lower the cost of filling a gas tank but we can do a lot to save people money other places - and not just in the energy field. Single payer health, does lower your bill at the gas stations, but puts money in your pocket to make up for it. In the longer term, Al Gore's proposal to 100% phase out fossil fuel electricity over ten years would help rural residents. Alan Drakes proposal to upgrade freight rail so as to shift 85% of long haul trucking to rail. (And that would save oil as well.)Over the really long run electrifying all or most ground transport and largely decarbonizing industry via efficiency improvement and electrification.



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