[lbo-talk] Nietzsche, Mencken, and anarchism

moominek at aol.com moominek at aol.com
Wed Jul 23 13:22:28 PDT 2008


Chris quoted himself


>I'm thinking here

especially of Futurism in Russia and Italy.)

and added material to proof commonalities between left and right versions of breaking with the past in early XX. century. All the material belongs of course to high culture, made by professionals, and in parts at least of the long nights of the boheme.

But even here not all cows are grey.

First: Wich of the russian futurists ever had an inclination to the right? Victor Shkolvsky? - His fight in "white" groups for the Constitutional assembly in spring 1918 was a short episode.

Second: Were do I find remarks on politics, machine guns and the party as manifestation of history in the russian futurist "attack on public taste"? The text is about language. Klebnikov ever tried too look like a political activist - he only saw himself as the president of earth.

Third: If we try to fix somebody in russian revolutionary movement, who took part in the discourse on   " a chiliastic version of history, the creation of a New Society that Would Change Everything, the Party as manifestation of History, Homo Sovieticus and Uebermensch, emphasis on mechanization"

- then we should take Trotsky and Andrej Platonov. But both are - in all the quite different position they took in their live - far away from sharing commonalities with Marinetties confusion of poetry with politics.

There have been parallels to Marinetti in the german expressionism before WWI - Franz Marc was killed fighting as

a volunteer for Wilhelm II. But this has nothing to do with leftist culture. The background you may see in Thomas Manns "Magic Mountain", take a look on the concluding pages.  

There is of course one commonality between socialist and conservative revolutionaries: Both want some sharp change in society. But the change and in consequence all the other things are quite different. And your statement was not that there were a few commonalites, the statement was

"The early-20th-century radical left and right grew out of the same cultural milieu"

- and this is completly wrong.

Sebastian

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