[lbo-talk] Roubini: Worst Financial Crisis Since the Great Depression and W

Cseniornyc at aol.com Cseniornyc at aol.com
Wed Jul 23 17:26:26 PDT 2008


Among a large plethora of analysts, recently Nouriel Roubini,a sharp rightwingish economist, has predicted that the US and global economy is heading toward serious recession. Doug Henwood's answer to this view was: "Again, maybe so, but there's no evidence that this is happening yet. It will be very interesting if the oil bubble bursts, too. " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ This is a very strange comment by a keen observer like Henwood because there is a strong consensus among analysts and forecasters that all the indicators of a serious recession are swirling around us. The economy has lost jobs for four months in a row, which has never happened without a recession. Consumer confidence has dropped to a 28 year low – a level not seen since Jimmy Carter was president. Home foreclosure filings are up 65 percent over last year. And now commercial real estate prices are heading south, dropping 6.2 percent in the first quarter. Other "evidence": the Case-Shiller index shows that average home prices are down 17% and still pushing down. Yesterday the Conference Board announced all major economic indicators are down. Today the FED announced a forthcoming period of prolonged slow growth. Hank Paulson repeated the same.The GSEs are in deep trouble. Every week a major write off in the billions is announced by a major bank. The Dow is down over 3,000 points for the year .Store chain closings led by Starbucks are frequent .Malls are half empty. Steve-Barry's a 276 store chain led by Sara Jessica Parker, just collapsed. In April the economy lost 80,000 jobs. The June figure show a lost of 62,000 for the month and a total of 438,000 for the first half of 2008. Car sales are at a 10 year low and even the WSJ announce a price hike to $2.The dollar continues to head in afree fall. So if all these points are not recessionary evidence,then know don't what it is. The major observation,however, would be, that for the lat decade, the major US engine of growth has been debt and not real investment and capital formation. Now the debt machinery originating in housing and securitization is stalled. So what is there to replace it? As to regard oil as a bubble, the implication here is a denial that Peak oil is here , supply is finite, that a major growth in global demand has occurred and that the price push is all due to speculators. (The right's view). Problem is that the whole commodity spectrum from aluminum to rice is then in a "bubble". Hope Mr Henwood is not advising oil traders like the SemGroup who just acknowledged today losses of $3.2 bn after betting that oil crude prices would decline.Two similar NY based funds from G/S and M/S also lost billions last year in a similar strategy.

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