[lbo-talk] Dustup - final installment

shag shag at cleandraws.com
Sat Jul 26 10:49:46 PDT 2008


At 01:26 PM 7/26/2008, Andy F wrote:
>On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
>
> > But foundational structures, like the "responsible individual" that Miles
> > pointed out, are, if not quite hardwired, rather like firmware. It's not
> > easy to change them. And in times of crisis, people often revert to the
> > basics, for security. Maybe I've read too much psychoanalysis for my own
> > good.
>
>But it sounds like in your case that firmware got cracked. This
>question came up before recently in a similar thread: how did it
>happen? Somewhere along the line it happened to me too.
>
>--
>Andy

well, yeah. but do you actually remember? and if you do, was it that you read about it all in a book?

it becomes pretty apparent, to me, that on reflection of my own personal life experiences, ideas didn't change me first, what made me prediscposed to having my crack foundationed *grin* is my experiences in life. ideas mattered after that, and it would go back and forther, feeding off each other forever more.

and i think, what doug is getting at is something i happen to suspect also, when people change their mind or seem to, when all that happens is that they read a book or heard a speech, is that this "change" is superficial and people revert to foundational ways of thinking and *behaving* when the shit hits the fan. (which is what, I think, accounts for the volatility in voting and race -- the bradley effect)

this never became so readily apparent to me as observing blogwars -- especially when you were privvy to what people said behind the scenes. all the blather about anti-racism was just that: blather. lacking in any actually socially-engaged political practice, *with others* and not sitting around commenting on blog posts, whatever mind changing they'd gone through was superficial enough to evaporate the minute their wee tender egos were challenged a bit. *because* they actually lacked experience engaged in activities that would reinforce ideas.

i'm ranting. i cut myself off and flee the house and the computer for R and R.

*poof*

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