Well, I didn't imagine that any academic feminists had won the battle outside of academia, but I had hoped that they had won it *inside*--until the analytic feminists disabused me. But--yikes! I didn't appreciate how much influence the anti-porn folks continued to have outside academia (whose warm embrace I have thankfully left--though I never found it very warm!). Great blog.
--Chris
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:47:11 -0400
> From: shag <shag at cleandraws.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] pr0n, lesbiangay, trans -- all the same mode
> of male domination. no really. nope. not kiddin'.
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> At 07:31 PM 7/29/2008, Chris Sturr wrote:
> >My impression is that among academic feminists/feminist theorists,
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> true. true. when you're ensconced in the warm embrace of academia, it seems
> like the battle was won. But, as a lot of people have pointed out, while in
> academia the radical/cultural feminists largely were shunted aside, they
> had already moved off campus and found their greatest success at the
> grassroots level.
>
> It has been forever and then some amazing to me to work in ordinary
> progressive groups, to mostly encounter folks of the radical/cultural
> persuasion. well, i should say had been. encountering it in even more
> volatile form online, where the 'activism' is ramped up a notch b/c of the
> excessive focus on discoursin', i started reading.
>
> i was aghast. and what's worse, outside academia, among this contingent,
> there isn't even any "there, there" gay men are our friends tolerance. In
> fact, there is outright hostility for this strand of thought sees gay men
> as the apotheosis of male domination! Yeah. I know. Me too.
>
> I wrote about it a lot, my reading to understand this, on my old blog,
> under http://blog.pulpculture.org/category/no-more-bitch/ (most of the
> entries after the one entitled lesbiangay -- which is there derogatory term
> for lesbian and gay studies, which they think is Teh Ev0l. No seriously. Me
> neither. I had no clue! Reading that book had my jaw in a permanent state
> of scraping the floor.
>
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-- -- Chris Sturr Co-editor, Dollars & Sense 29 Winter St. Boston, Mass. 02108 phone: 617-447-2177, ext. 205 fax: 617-447-2179 email: sturr at dollarsandsense.org