[lbo-talk] The atheist delusion

John Thornton jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jun 3 14:20:21 PDT 2008


Miles Jackson wrote:
> John Thornton wrote:
>
>> Religion can easily, and in my mind more plausibly, be described as a
>> by-product of human minds.
>>
>>
>>
> Or more precisely: a by-product of social interactions. A mind cannot
> build a church or conduct a baptism; it is through social interactions
> that religion becomes an important social institution. (A banal point
> once it occurs to you, but an important thing to keep in mind when
> people bring up the ever-popular "let's explain social conditions in
> terms of individual psychology" trope.)
>
> Miles

A church or baptism are not religion. Religion is a by-product of human minds but it manifests itself through social interactions. It isn't, strictly speaking, a by-product of those interactions. The examples I gave like memory illusion or source monitoring defects are mental by-products that manifest themselves through our social interactions but they are not specifically by-products of social interactions. Everyone in every society will experience source monitoring defects because it is a by-product of how the mind functions. What you do with that source monitoring defect will be socially constructed but it's very existence isn't itself socially constructed.

John Thornton



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