[lbo-talk] heterosexuality?

Tahir Wood twood at uwc.ac.za
Fri Jun 13 03:30:15 PDT 2008



>>> <lbo-talk-request at lbo-talk.org> 06/12/08 7:14 PM >>>
From: "shag" <shag at cleandraws.com> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] heterosexuality?
>>I meant men and women fucking each other and liking it. What did
>>Gramsci have to say about it? Did he have a different notion to
this?
>>Tahir
>
> And if they don't like it? Reproduction doesn't depend on that does
it?

i wondered about that myself. i'd say that fucking on occasion, once a year or so given gestation, is all that's required. liking it or any attitude about it whatsoever seems unnecessary to reproduction of the species.

This kind of 'planned parenthood' wouldn't work for evolution of the species although it might work for propogation of the species, two different things. It wouldn't work for evolution, because hominids, or any other earlier species, would obviously not have a sense of 'wanting' to evolve into homo sapiens (talk about teleology!). So what reason would they have then for doing something they didn't like? They certainly wouldn't have had any religious injunction to go forth and multiply at that pre-human stage. Also, at that lower stage of evolution it is highly unlikely that sex was linked cognitively to reproduction. It has even been suggested that for a large part of the era of homo sapiens that that link was not grasped.

As far as propogation of the species is concerned, like now, you could argue that the occasional fuck out of a sense of duty (or the desire to have children) would do it. Provided that you used viagra or something similar you could perform this act grudgingly I suppose. But it would make more sense to donate to a sperm bank or something in that case.

But evolution could logically not have happened without some sort of sexual drive existing. I personally don't have any investment in either calling that an instinct or not. But as I pointed out earlier, this stipulation does not require that everyone, always and everywhere, must engage in heterosexual behaviour as a preference over homosexuality, only that this should be sufficiently the case.

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