Heidegger uses the violence metaphor, but not in the way I think Ted means.
--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Eric <rayrena at realtime.net> wrote:
>
> Like the rest of this post, this is terribly wrong.
> Speaking of the
> "poststructuralists" I know best, for them
> violence is seen as an
> effect, not as an ontological foundation. Here's what
> Deleuze said
> about this in his book on Foucault:
>
> What is Power? Foucault's definition seems a very
> simple one: power
> is a relation between forces, or rather every relation
> between forces
> is a 'power relation'. In the first place we must
> understand that
> power is not a form, such as the State-form; and that the
> power
> relation does not lie between two forms, as does knowledge.
> In the
> second place, force is never singular but essentially
> exists in
> relation with other forces, such that any force is already
> a
> relation, that is to say power: force has no other object
> or subject
> than force. This does not create a return to natural law,
> because for
> its part law is a form of expression, whereas Nature is a
> form of
> visibility _and violence a concomitance or consequence of
> force, but
> not a constituent element_. Foucault is closer to Nietzsche
> (and to
> Marx), for whom the relation between forces greatly exceeds
> violence
> and cannot be defined by the latter. Violence acts on
> specific
> bodies, objects or beings whose form it destroys or
> changes, while
> force has no object other than that of other forces, and no
> being
> other than that of relation: it is 'an action upon an
> action, on
> existing actions, or on those which may arise in the
> present or
> future'; it is 'a set of action upon other other
> actions'. We can
> therefore conceive of a necessarily open list of variables
> expressing
> a relation between force or power relation, constituting
> actions upon
> actions: to incite, to induce, to seduce, to make easy or
> difficult,
> to enlarge or limit, to make more or less probable, and so
> on.
>
> (Gilles Deleuze, _Foucault_, p. 70)
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