[lbo-talk] black primary turnout

[John Thornton]

Charles Brown wrote:
> CB: If Barry gets elected, that mass vote for him will be enough
> pressure from below for him to put more money in CDBG, not really that
> radical of a move, and other mildly pro urban stuff.  Obama isn't making
> radical promises, which is why it won't be that hard for him to actually
> do them, assuming the people vote in a Democratic Congress ( which would
> be another push from below).  We don't have to have the 60's again for
> the next President to move to the left of Bush. 
>
>  It is you who interprets "change" as socialism, not anything he has
> promised.

But you said Obama would be "Pulling up America's problems at the root." 
not giving us tepid change that any Dem would capable of.
You also said "He'll be as progressive as the People make him be. If 
millions are lobbying for universal health care, he'll have no choice 
but to give it to them."
Millions of people are lobbying to get the US out of Iraq so this means 
you believe Obama will have no choice but to remove US troops from Iraq.
I bet he doesn't do it. Mostly because he says he won't do it rather 
than any great prognosticating abilities on my part.
I expect there would be no substantive difference between an Obama White 
House or  Clinton White House.
To believe otherwise is to project ideals onto a candidate rather than 
assess them on what they say and do.

John Thornton