I don't know why but it seems some people on the site like to haze and sling insults. Do I have to prove something before I am accepted?
I am not hiding anything. I am not here to compete with anyone or to call out anyone on anything. Maybe I am a bit defensive - but that is merely because I am attacked for merely expessing an opinion - that I disagree with authoritarian socialism.
I am not a troll, CIA nor a FBI agent, not a PHD or academic, not poor, but certainly not rich. I just wanted to offer some thoughts, experiences on autonomism and my concerns with social democratic reforms.
Moreover, I was being rhetorical with my question regarding LBO, because I get a sense that ideas, thoughts are shot down before they are sincerely discussed. I expressed an opinion and was skewered as it being useless. So, I ask what is the alternative? This is an honest and genuine question.
Percival Myers <permaceaem at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Paul Papadeas wrote:
> But in the aggregate - Capitalism does more harm than good. Don't you agree?
On the whole, there's no end to the horror stories of things that have happened. The desolation of towns where cars were once made in Illinois (and elsewhere) and rampant murder rates of women in border towns with factories in Mexico, to cite two of many possible examples.
> And if so - why would you want to keep it?
Last I checked, it gave the best avenue to trade in your serf clothing for that of royalty. However remote or improbable, that remains a possibility, under capitalism. This cannot be said for feudalism, serfs never become royalty except through revolution. Fascism? Do we really need to go there? Communism/Socialism? No modern nation on Earth has tried it and shown that the human race is ready for it yet. At least, the helper systems have all devolved to some weirdly-updated fuedal system, we just haven't called the serfs and royalty by the same names. So what else is there, besides these obvious steps backwards? Have you invented something new?
Before anyone kvetches, yes I'm aware of the studies that show better transit rates from lower to middle classes in certain northwest European nations, that those nations have smaller disparity between middle and upper incomes. Well, I want the brass ring, what I object to is systemic measures set in place to keep my $100 under $1000 while $1B becomes $5T etc.
> Is LBO in service of reforming and putting a smiley face on capitalism?
Are you in the habit of behaving stupidly while pretending to be a provocateur?
There are plenty of criticisms of capitalism and LBO engages in some of them. To say what you said betrays something beyond revolting, it shows complicity with something unnamed. Why don't you exorcise your demons and name what it is that drives you?
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