[lbo-talk] Chavez: slow down

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 3 11:02:35 PST 2008


If by "helper systems" you mean the countries of "really existing socialism," all of them actually had high levels of social mobility. The motto of the Stalin era was "my father was a peasant; I am a worker; my son will be an engineer." For instance, Gorbachev's parents were peasants; I think Yeltsin's were too.

--- Percival Myers <permaceaem at gmail.com> wrote: Last I checked, it gave the best avenue to trade in your serf clothing for that of royalty. However remote or improbable, that remains a possibility, under capitalism. This cannot be said for feudalism, serfs never become royalty except through revolution. Fascism? Do we really need to go there? Communism/Socialism? No modern nation on Earth has tried it and shown that the human race is ready for it yet. At least, the helper systems have all devolved to some weirdly-updated fuedal system, we just haven't called the serfs and royalty by the same names.

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