[lbo-talk] The State and Capitalism

Chuck chuck at mutualaid.org
Tue Mar 4 08:43:15 PST 2008


Angelus Novus wrote:


> Water has to be transmitted to households,
> electricity, sewage, etc., and frankly, I find nothing
> appealing in the anarchist utopia of decentralized
> workers councils having to decide upon these things.
> I would much rather stay home watching movies and
> listening to music.

The decentralized anarchist utopia works. As a "pragmatic visionary" I have no time for hopeless utopian schemes. It's totally possible to run utilities in a decentralized anarchist fashion. Just look at the Internet or the international postal system, which rely on international cooperation on a large scale.


> One of Marx's most valuable contributions is the
> criticism of petit bourgeois, decentralized
> productivist utopias. Those sort of communalist
> blueprints for a future society are completely
> unappealing to me. Anyway who knows anything about
> small villages and towns, and why people leave them
> for places like Berlin, knows exactly why.

Marx has been dead for some time. He may have had some interesting insights for his time, but lets not treat his words like scripture.

Chuck



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