[lbo-talk] on shitholes and spending money without burning a hole in my gut

Peter Hart Ward pward at peterhartward.com
Tue Mar 11 19:37:20 PDT 2008


My impression is that Starbucks is increasingly becoming a shithole as well...at least the ones in an urban setting.

Incidentally, in many other countries McDondalds is highly fashionable--Belarus, for instance. One has to consider the situation globally before rushing to conclusions...it seems these trends strictly apply only to the US (probably Canada as well) with western Europe lagging behind somewhat and with more or less the opposite phenomena observed everywhere else. (One what these finding mean, I'll leave it to brighter souls to work out.)

On Mar 9, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Michael Smith wrote:


> On Sunday 09 March 2008 23:42:16 shag wrote:
>
>> these have all been in cities, except for the ones on a military
>> base. but
>> i don't remember syracuse's west side (17th poorest neighborhood
>> in the
>> u.s., then) dickmonald's being such a shithole.
>
> Never been to Syracuse, so I can't say, but 20-30 years ago
> I was greatly impressed by the difference between urban and
> suburban McWhatevers. The suburban ones were thicker
> on the ground, for one thing, and so you had a choice which
> one to go to. Also, white-collar people went to McWhatsits
> in suburbia, and in the city they wouldn't be caught dead.
>
> But if your sample is all urban, and the trend is still down...
> maybe they're becoming increasingly the last resort?
>
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