[lbo-talk] Obama's Philadelphia race speech and the American Creed

B. docile_body at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 19 16:03:32 PDT 2008


The point I was refuting was the idea that seemed to say "propaganda never works" - only "concrete social conditions on the groud" work in changing peoples' minds. Really? Propaganda never works in changing peoples' attitudes? Talk to Walter Lippman and Edward Bernays.

Mr. Cox said: "Opinions are only in the rarest instances of a few scattered individuals changed by arguments. Arguments are only fruitful among those who share the same basic convictions. [...] Forget about persuading people."

Unfortunately, you can propagandize people in any number of ways in spite of, or because of, social conditions -- either way.

-B.

Miles Jackson wrote:

"But the point here is that attitude change is a product of changing social conditions. The social psychological research on this is quite clear: attitudes are the outcome, social conditions are the cause."



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