On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> But this is what Marx himself thought, isn't it? In fact, one reason the
> authorities in the Russian Empire encouraged Marxism at one point was that
> the Marxists, as opposed to the narodniki or anarchists, supported the
> Tsar's industrialization drive.
>
> --- On Thu, 11/6/08, B. <docile_body at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > I have spoken with Marxists whose reasoning is so convoluted
> > that they demand and welcome new "developing"
> > countries into the capitalist fold, because in their
> > playbook a country *must* FIRST go through capitalism to get
> > beyond that and therefore into socialism. So new capitalist
> > countries are welcome by some Marxists.
> >
> > Point is, obviously Marx thought a post-capitalist society
> > would be progress, at least according to any generally-used
> > definition of "capitalism" I am aware of.
> >
> > Some of his supporters have taken it to the extreme to say
> > a nation MUST go through a period of capitalism before
> > progressing into socialism, thus ironically putting them in
> > the position of championing burgeoning new capitalist
> > societies.
> >
> > Pretty fucked up.
> >
> > -B.
> >
> >
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