Ick!
How exactly is flinging around epithets that make even supporters gag going to motivate people to back one up on this campaign?
And you think Fox news is exactly where one would launch a campaging to hold O's feet to the fire about a major campaign issue?
Uhhhh.....
At least it's a different flavor of monster under the bed than Card check.
DC
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jordan Hayes <jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com> wrote:
> John Thornton writes:
>
> To ask whether Obama will be be either Uncle Sam for the people
>> or Uncle Tom to the corporations and then follow that up
>> excoriating Obama for cozying up to corporations and calling
>> him a corporate toady is to answer his own question.
>>
>
> I presume Obama is the only one who can answer the question; Nader, as a
> lawyer, seems comfortable to use past evidence to support his suspicions.
>
> I take you you did not believe the question was answered quite plainly in
>> the rest of Naders diatribe?
>>
>
> I think Nader made a lot of good points and threw down a big challenge.
> It's unfortunate that so many people (you included: see "I think it's a
> mistake for any white person to use the term") think that _just the use of
> the term_ is enough to dismiss the rest of what he was saying. I'm
> surprised some of the people doing that are on this list; I expect it from
> Fox News, of course -- and so did Ralph Nader.
>
> I mean, what a setup: would you apologize to Fox News under that kind of
> circumstance? I give Nader props for even agreeing to be interviewed by
> that scumbag.
>
> If I listen to it again (or read the transcript) what exactly would you
>> have me look for that might convince me his question was a genuine inquiry?
>>
>
> Oh, the question is serious alright; so he thought he was being clever by
> using the Uncle Sam/Uncle Tom contrast ... and it falls a little flat.
>
> So what?
>
> -----
>
> Although the term developed in the context of US slavery (which was largely
> but not exclusively Black), it's useful to remember that it's not a conecpt
> that only existed in US-thus-Black-slavery -- it's really a class reference,
> and I think Nader's point is poignant in that context.
>
> If Obama does what Nader suggests he might, he deserves to be called names.
>
> /jordan
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