On Nov 12, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Chris Doss wrote:
> I think some people (not Butler specifically) are mad because a
> black guy won. Now they can't say "a black man will never be elected
> president, look how evil the US is" AND they want to poo-poo the
> accomplishment, "so OK maybe a black guy was elected president, but
> so what, it means nothing! We're still evil!"
Uh, no. I don't think anyone says it means nothing. And most of us are well beyond the "the US is evil!" stage.
> Really, you can't really blame Obama for operating when the US
> political establishment.
Uh, who does? That's the whole point of what people like me have been saying. Charles is one of the other-worldly exceptions.