[lbo-talk] On the Threat from Religion

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Thu Nov 20 21:36:44 PST 2008


On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:54 PM, Chris Doss wrote:


> I think a problem here may be in people's differing definitions of
> religion. I take it to mean something like the unity of the
> following three:
>
> 1. belief that something exists outside of experience and outside of
> possible conceptualization (this is very bad phraseology on my part,
> but I hope you get the general idea);
>
> 2. belief that relating to this something is important in some way
> for human existence;
>
> 3. a conceptual system, whether simple or complex, whether formally
> organized or not, for relating human existence to that something.

The absurdity is to believe that what is "outside of experience and outside of possible conceptualization" can possibly be "related" to human (or any other form of) existence.

Shane Mage


> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos



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