[lbo-talk] On the Threat from Religion

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 22 04:52:22 PST 2008


But actually Carrol's position is actually that capitalism's inherent contradictions will not eventually do it in, which makes his position even more perplexing.

--- On Fri, 11/21/08, B. <docile_body at yahoo.com> wrote:


> From: B. <docile_body at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] On the Threat from Religion
> To: "LBO Talk" <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 11:28 PM
> James,
>
> In the 70s Marxist (USA only?) community there was a debate
> on one side that said Marx made no moralistic judgments re:
> capitalism.
>
> This position was represented by folks like Cornell's
> Allen Wood. The idea was that the capitalist mode of
> production was one historical mode of production whose
> escalating logic of contradictions would do it in, plain and
> simple, whether capitalism was morally sound or not. This
> fatalistic position seems to be Comrade Cox's position.
>
> Ziyad Husami at U. of Penn. responded that Marx indeed
> found much morally offensive about capitalism, as evidenced
> by his choice of language ("theft,"
> "tyranny," "letters of blood and fire,"
> "swindling," "defrauding,"
> "cheating," etc. regarding how bosses treat the
> working class) in describing the damn system.
>
> That it is still being debated in 2008 is depressing, but
> Carrol Cox is not exactly up with the times, as he's
> admitted himself:
>
> http://www.kvltpunk.com/coxshaft.html
>
> -B.
>
>



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