[lbo-talk] David Brooks, so worried

[andie nachgeborenen]

I've said as much in print. But for my purposes here these issues don't matter. The main point is that the effoert has delegitiamted any attempt to build socialism and we have no ideas and no organization. The other side is delegitimated, but still has money and organization.

--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:


> From: Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] David Brooks, so worried
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 4:21 PM
> I think it makes more sense to view the Stalin period as
> being characterized by a industrial modernization project
> using socialism as a legitimating ideology rather than as an
> attempt to build socialism.
> 
> --- On Sun, 10/12/08, andie nachgeborenen
> <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > I do not think this was because Stalin and Mao were
> > monsters, your words not mine, although they were. I
> think
> > it is probably and most deeply because Marx's
> original
> > idea that you cannot build socialism in one country
> and a
> > backward one that that was correct, and also (you will
> > disagree but this is what I think) we have failured to
> > anticipate the limits of planning that Hayek outlined.
> Both
> > of these are structural factors. For the present it
> > doesn't matter whether they are right either for
> my
> > purposes or for yours. 
> > 
> 
> 
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