[lbo-talk] Amerika the delusional

Marvin Gandall marvgandall at videotron.ca
Tue Sep 23 09:38:29 PDT 2008


Wojtek writes:


> A university professor from PA interviewed yesterday on NPR said that she
> was a Clinton supporter but she does not belive that Obama has the
> qualifications so she is leaning toward MacCain.
>
> These are not your typical hicks from the flyover country, but college
> educated folk who should know better.  This is the best proof that this
> country is populated by delusional morons quite incapable of weighing
> ideaa, and whose whol ethinking is done in terms of emotions.
========================================== On the other hand, in support of the "two Americas" thesis:

Women Heavily Favor Obama in Donations Contribution Data Reflect Changes Since 2000 Race By BRODY MULLINS and MARY JACOBY Wall Street Journal SEPTEMBER 23, 2008

WASHINGTON -- Women have donated twice as much money to Barack Obama than John McCain in the 2008 election, reversing past trends that favored Republicans, according to an analysis by the Women's Campaign Forum Foundation.

In the 2000 election, women donated twice as much to then-presidential candidate George W. Bush as to his Democratic rival, Al Gore. In the 2004 election, women donated about the same amount to Mr. Bush and to Democratic Sen. John Kerry.

Women are also on pace to contribute far more money to the presidential campaigns than ever before, the analysis showed. But they still make far fewer political donations than men -- and are showing few signs of catching up.

According to the analysis, which was based on campaign-finance data through the July 31 disclosure period, women had given a total of $109.5 million to the presidential campaigns of Sens. Obama and McCain. That nearly matches the $115.2 million that women contributed to Messrs. Bush and Kerry in the 2004 race -- and nearly triple the total women donated to Messrs. Bush and Gore in 2000.

The study was commissioned by the Women's Campaign Forum Foundation, an organization dedicated to getting women more involved in public life, and was based on data compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. The Women's Campaign Forum Foundation also conducted an online survey of 600 women about their online giving.

The study looked at donations to the two major-party presidential nominees in the last three election cycles. While it did include donations the nominees collected for their primary fights, it didn't include donations to other primary candidates, such as Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York.

Separate data from the Center for Responsive Politics show that Sen. Clinton raised about $60 million from women.

Despite the increase in donations, women still lag far behind male contributors. The study found that through July 31, women accounted for 36% of the total money donated to Sens. Obama and McCain. In 2004, women made up 35% of donations, up from 34% in 2000.

The data show that women donated $75.3 million to Sen. Obama and $34.2 million to Sen. McCain through July 31, according to the report. In 2004, women sent $58.1 million to Mr. Bush and $57.1 million to Mr. Kerry. In 2000, Mr. Bush received $26 million from women, compared with $11.4 million for Mr. Gore.

Women are heavy users of social-networking and campaign Web sites that put them in a position to make online donations -- an increasingly important source of cash for candidates, the study found.

For example, the online survey found that 92% of the women who responded visited campaign Web sites, 79% signed up for email news from campaigns and 60% signed online petitions.

Of the women who made two or more donations in the last year, 28% gave $50 or more. The frequent female donors also tended to be more active using online resources to recruit supporters to their candidates. Four of five of these frequent donors forwarded emails or news about politics to friends, while 37% asked friends to make donations. Those who made less frequent donations tended to be less active, with only 17%, for example, asking friends to give money to their favorite candidates.



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