[lbo-talk] Marx without quotation marks

Voyou voyou1 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 1 10:47:10 PDT 2009


On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 02:24 +0100, Philip Pilkington wrote:
> I'm actually not being a smartass when I say this, but: did you read what I
> wrote? This has nothing to do with translation issues or anything else. My
> claim is that these institutions which are supposed to generate the norms,
> value judgements etc. are totally fucked and they no longer function. The
> prisons, for example, nowadays, with their serious overcrowding seem to
> resemble some sort of basic social segregation where troubled elements can
> be fenced in from society. There is very little in the way of aspiring to
> inculcate a regime of norms into the prisoner.

It may be a mistake to see this as a failure of the prison system, though - after all, Foucault was very interested in how systems achieve their wider function by not achieving their stated aims. The last part of Discipline and Punish is all about this - about how the carceral system produces delinquency, a break-down of social order that provides the pretext for continuing low-level intervention by the police. If this system of control is now moving from outside the prison into it, that's not necessarily a failure of the prison system, but rather a modulation of the way it functions.

--

"The slightly richer ... eat in semi-darkness, preferring

candles to electricity. These candles make me laugh. All the

electricity belongs to the bourgeoisie, yet they eat by

candle-end. They have an unconscious fear of their own

electricity. They are embarrassed, like the sorcerer who has

called up spirits he is unable to control."

-- Vladimir Mayakovsky http://blog.voyou.org/ voyou at voyou.org



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