On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Marv Gandall wrote:
> Why would we prempt the right of a future socialist democracy to
> decide
> whether it wanted to abolish prisons or not? This is NOT presently
> a demand
> arising organically from the people, least of all poor people, for
> whom the
> incarceration of criminal offenders is widely seen as a necessary
> means of
> protecting their personal safety and private and public propery.
Ditto the treatment of juveniles - almost no difference between b and w:
<http://www.albany.edu/sourcebook/pdf/t248.pdf>.
Leftists often live in a world of their own invention.
Doug