On Apr 9, 2009, at 10:34 AM, farmelantj at juno.com wrote:
>
> I agree with Carrol. Back in the early
> 1960s none of the leading center-left politicians
> (i.e. Mendes-France, Mitterand, etc.) could
> have done what De Gaulle was able to do
> with Algeria. And none of them would
> have dared to even try.
>
Another counterfactual. The *fact* is that deGaulle lied ("je vous ai
compris") to the European-descended Algerians and their Muslim allies
and betrayed them into death and exile. This certainly played a role
in converting tomatoes to bombs.
> The same applies to Israel IMO.
> We saw what happened when they
> had a government of the center and
> center-left,
Indeed, it was "center and center-left" governments that established the settlements with their theofascist fanatics.
Shane Mage
> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos