On Apr 12, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Eubulides wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "shag carpet bomb" <shag at cleandraws.com
> >
>
>> i often don't understand your particular specialist language Ian.
>> What are you talking about when you use the word "independence" and
>> "stories of independence"?
>>
>> shag
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> 1st example: the everyday use of the term in, say, claims of the
> independence of central banks --
Central banks may not be fully independent of central governments, but
they all have much greater independence than any "autonomous"
territorial entity and indeed than many governments (as the members of
the EU have discovered).
> 2nd example: the paradoxes of claims of independence in some schools
> of moral epistemology which presuppose realism; to wit "the truth of
> the wrongfulness of abortion is independent of any possible proof we
> could give for the claim" i.e. a moralist's version of a typical
> maneuver in defense of alethic realism; truth outruns proof.
What "proves" the *Goldberg Variations* to be greater music than
*Rudolph the Red-Nosed Raindeer*?
What "paradox" is posed by the fact that here "truth outruns proof?"
Shane Mage
> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos