[lbo-talk] Just 53% Say Capitalism Better Than Socialism

Mike Ballard swillsqueal at yahoo.com.au
Sun Apr 12 23:46:51 PDT 2009


Chris Doss wrote:

I'm pretty sure this description is relying on Mussolini's quote (which he never actually said) that fascism is corporatism and also not understanding what fascism meant by "corporatism." It didn't mean "corporations." It meant an ideal system in which all classes in society would work together, as opposed to rule by the capitalists (as in liberal capitalism) and rule by the working class (as in Bolshevism).

--- On Fri, 4/10/09, double bluff <mullah_omar at email.it> wrote: It is
> revulsion against capitalism turned Mussolini style
> corpocracy, Given a choice between capitalism of that form
> and anything else, they'll gamble on the alternative."
> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NakedCapitalism/~3/CRFqcEPgFHU/socialism-gaining-ground-in-america.html
>

Benito Mussolini wrote:

32: "Fascist corporate economy is the economy of individuals of associated

groups and of the State."

47-8: "This fond of economy is regulated, strengthened and harmonized for the

sake of collective utility, by the producers themselves -- be they employers,

technicians or workers -- by means of the corporations created by the State which, representing as it does the whole nation."

From: Mussolini, Benito. 1936. The Corporate State (Firenze: Vallecchi). ****************************************************

8. Outside the State there can be neither individuals nor groups (political parties, associations, syndicates, classes). Therefore, Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which confines the movement of history within the class struggle and ignores the unity of classes established in one economic and moral reality in the State: and analogously it is opposed to class syndicalism. (my MB interjection: class syndicalism is like the sort of unionism which the IWW promotes) Fascism recognizes the real exigencies for which the socialist and syndicalist movement arose, but while recognizing them wishes to bring them under the control of the State and give them a purpose within the corporative system of interests reconciled within the unity of the State.

and later in this piece…

…It might be said against this programme that it is a return to the corporations. It doesn’t matter!....I should like, nevertheless, the Assembly to accept the claims of national syndicalism from the point of view of economics…

Is it not surprising that from the first day in the Piazza San Sepolcro there should resound the word ‘Corporation’ which was destined in the creations at the base of the regime?

and later…

But when one says liberalism, one says the individual; when one says Fascism, one says the State. But the Fascist State is unique; it is an original creation. It is not reactionary but revolutionary in that it anticipates the solutions of certain universal problems. These problems are no longer seen in the same light: in the sphere of politics they are removed from party rivalries, from the supreme power of parliament, from the irresponsibility of assemblies; in the sphere of economics they are removed from the sphere of the syndicates’ activities—activities that were ever widening their scope and increasing their power, both on the workers’ side and on the employers’—removed from their struggles and their designs; in the moral sphere they are divorced from ideas of the need for order, discipline and obedience, and lifted into the plane of moral commandments of the fatherland…..


>From “The Doctrine of Fascism” written by Benito Mussolini in 1932 in collaboration with Giovanni Gentile.

FYI, Mike B)

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