Dennis Perrin wrote:
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> Carrol:
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> > Cruelty to animals is another issue, independent of whether they do
> > suffer or not: they seem to . . .
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> They definitely do. No doubt in my mind. The question remains, is it
> justified?
I would agree, but my point was to separate the _political_ argument against allowing animal cruelty from the technical debate over animal consciousness. I remember listening to Air Force cooks talk jovially of "turpentining a dog's ass," and there references to human relations were not much more edifying.
Carrol