On Apr 25, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Doug Henwood wrote:
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> On Apr 25, 2009, at 1:26 PM, B. wrote:
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>> Noam Chomsky (as someone else alluded to) has a very good bit about
>> 1) What Lenin and Trotsky were like when they were out of power and
>> on the sidelines, outsiders looking in, vs. 2) What they were like
>> when they were in power.
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>> Perhaps not surprisingly, there is a stark contrast! Trotsky and
>> Lenin, while out of power, were almost libertarian socialist in
>> their sentiments. ("State and Revolution.")
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> So maybe this has something to do with taking power, rather than
> their innate "jerkiness"?
What it has to do with, no maybes about it, is the reality of fascist (in all but name) counterrevolution and the role of "bourgeois democrats" and "social democrats" and stupid "anarchists" in service to the fascist counterrevolution.
Shane Mage
> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos