[lbo-talk] Robert Frost Defends Robespierre, Lenin, Mao

Bhaskar Sunkara bhaskar.sunkara at gmail.com
Sat Apr 25 15:20:21 PDT 2009


I think that Trotsky compared anarchist theory to a pretty umbrella, but one that once you open it you discover that it has holes in it.

During the Spanish Revolution the anarchists had worker councils, community councils and revolutionary citizens militias. They *had* a state in places like Barcelona, they just didn't realize it. Engels said that the state was "armed bodies of men", so why didn't the social anarchists--- who were the really exemplary ones in organizing and who had a lot of the power in early stages of the Spanish Civil War take "power". Well they said they didn't believe in the state--- instead of recognizing that they had created a new state only a "worker's state".

I don't think there are that many pure anarchists that think that you can skip completely over the socialist period with a state, and in general American anarchists are poor standard bearers of anarchist theories compared to their European counterparts.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:


>
> Yes. That's part of what I meant by "taking power," though I should have
> said that. Every six or twelve months, I ask an anarchist purist how he or
> she (and almost all of them are he's, aren't they?) how they would deal with
> counterrevolutionary violence, which usually observes no niceties. E.g., how
> would they run Cuba (does an anarchist "run" anything? well, leave that
> aside) in the face of the implacable hostility of the United States? I've
> never gotten anything resembling an answer.
>
> Doug
>



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