[lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in

Alan Rudy alan.rudy at gmail.com
Wed Aug 5 08:54:44 PDT 2009


An excellent point and one which speaks to the depth of our post-Protestant, deeply-Utilitarian and utterly pre-sociological training in transhistorical heroic individualism. It is the concept of individualism, not of the individual, choice or responsibility, that is new to the 18th and 19th C.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Miles Jackson <cqmv at pdx.edu> wrote:


> Chris Doss wrote:
>
>> This thread was pretty much well and truly ended by Michael Pollak (go
>> Michael), but upon reflection (and having reread Book 1 of the Illiad) I'm
>> dubious that the notion that the individual's choices are important is
>> something particular to capitalist ideology.
>>
>
> I have to say that's an odd reading of the Illiad. In fact, the
> representation of people in the Illiad illustrates my point: the concept of
> personhood in a given time and place is a social accomplishment, not an
> immutable component of human nature. Bruno Snell is good on this:
>
> "According to his [Homer's] view—and there could be no other for him—a
> man's action or perception is determined by the divine forces operative in
> the world; it is a reaction of his physical organs to a stimulus, and this
> stimulus is itself grasped as a personal act. Any new situation is likely to
> be the result of stimuli, and the source of new stimuli in its turn."
>
> --Snell, The Discovery of Mind, p. 43.
>
> (The heroes of the Iliad are about as far from free-willed individuals who
> makes autonomous decisions as you can get!)
>
>
> Miles
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