[lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in

Marv Gandall marvgandall at videotron.ca
Thu Aug 6 18:21:16 PDT 2009


Shane M. writes:


>
> On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:20 PM, c b wrote:
>
>> Marx is also an amoralist for the following reason: morality concerns
>> judging action that impacts that interests of _other_ people not the
>> self-interests of the actor. Marx is trying to get the working class,
>> working class individuals, to take action in their own self-interest.
>> Marx does not appeal to the working class to revolt against the
>> immorality of the ruling class, but to act in its own self-interest ,
>> which is an amoral motive.
>
>
> But the "self-interest" of the proletariat, as Marx conceives it, has
> nothing to do with "interest" (economic advantage) as conceived by
> individuals, including individual proletarians, in bourgeois society.
> The "self-interest" of the proletariat as a class *fur sich* consists of
> its *abolition as a class
============================================== But it is only when individual workers identify their own economic self-interest with the interest of all who work for wages and salaries that they combine for collective action in the workplace and in politics - that which presents them with the possibility of transcending their status as workers, ie. the abolition of the working class. This newly awakened social consciousness is conceived of as the "highest expression" of morality in contradistinction to bourgeois morality which exalts the individual, but it follows rather than precedes the development of class consciousness arising out of the realm of production.



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