[lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in

[Jeffrey Fisher]

right there you have it.
and i think this is consistent with my point in reply to chris? about
imitative learning? and
of course "true culture" here is pretty fungible, don't you think? the
critical point with respect to, say, birds, may be in the last sentence, the
issue of transmission from generation to generation.

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:06 PM, c b <cb31450 at gmail.com> wrote:


> On page 68 of _Interpretation of Culture_
> (
> http://books.google.com/books?id=BZ1BmKEHti0C&pg=PA64&dq=Clifford+Geertz+do+chimps+have+culture&ei=Gw6DSpblB5GsNvnZqOsK#v=onepage&q=&f=false
> )
>  Geertz says:
>
> "That any (living or extinct) infra-hominid primate can be said to
> possess true culture - in the narrowed sense of "an ordered system of
> meaning and symbols...in terms of which individuals define their
> worlds, express their feelings and make their judgments" - is of
> course extremely doubtful. But monkeys and apes are
> through-and-through social creatures as to be able to be unable to
> achieve emotional maturity in isolation, to acquire a great many of
> their most important perfomance capacities through imitative learning
> (monkey see; monkey do -CB) and to develop distinctive
> intraspecifically variable collective social traditions which are
> transmitted as  non-biological heritage from generation to generation
> is now well established."
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