[lbo-talk] Obama: killing for 2012

[brad bauerly]

Contrary to the belief by many, I don't think the US has really seeks to use
its military to control an industry.  Its history is more of the use of
force to open up areas and industries for global capitalism, and to protect
US investments, or even non-US capitalist investments.  It does not,
usually, set up colonies or mercantilist systems.  Its power has always lied
in its use of force to open up areas that seems to benefit global capital in
general, which is why it is hegemonic amongst advanced nations.  Of course
there are exceptions, but I think this is pretty much the case.  I think we
need to analyze Iraq and Afghanistan in the same way.

Brad


>
> I love Noam, but how can you believe that policy would remain
> unchanged despite a big change in material circumstances? How do
> quotes from fifty years ago continue to explain a different world?
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> Note that U.S. oil companies did rather poorly in the recent round of
> auctions in Iraq. Companies from China, Malaysia, France, and Russia
> did at least as well or better.
>
> Doug
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> From: Nicholas Ruiz III <editor at intertheory.org>
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> Hence the US desire for an ever escalating military presence...?
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>  nick
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> From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
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> Note that U.S. oil companies did rather poorly in the recent round of
> auctions in Iraq. Companies from China, Malaysia, France, and Russia
> did at least as well or better.
>
> Doug
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> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:17:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Obama: killing for 2012
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> As I have pointed out,?the main target the US is aiming at in these
> pipeline theories is Russia. Which supports?NATO in Afghanistan, through
> which?NATO is being logistically supplied, and which permitted NATO use of
> military bases in the 'stans (according to Lavrov, through the direct
> intervention of Putin). This is a rather odd scenario,
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
>
> I love Noam, but how can you believe that policy would remain unchanged
> despite a big change in material circumstances? How do quotes from fifty
> years ago continue to explain a different world?
>
> Note that U.S. oil companies did rather poorly in the recent round of
> auctions in Iraq. Companies from China, Malaysia, France, and Russia did at
> least as well or better.
>
> Doug
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