[lbo-talk] How Politics Ruined My Life: Was Fuck Hope

[wrobert at uci.edu]

I always thought that Triumph was an immensely tedious film.  I wouldn't
argue against the spectacular choreography on the part of Riefenstahl and
the Nazi party apparatus, but I would rather have them engage in this in
someone else's living room. robert wood

P.S. also, 'beauty' doesn't really say anything all that interesting about
art.


> The idea just occurred to me that the notion that bad people (or people
> with bad ideas -- not the same thing) can't create works of beauty is tied
> up with the idea that Beauty is a variant of Truth. A work in this view
> can only be beautiful if it is true (in an objective, not
> phenomenological, sense); therefore, works by bad people (or people with
> bad ideas) must not really be beautiful, because if they were, that would
> mean that the ideas behind them have some substance as well. So, if we
> admit that Triumph of the Will is beautiful, that must mean that Nazism
> must be true. Nazism isn't true, therefore Triumph of the Will must not
> really be beautiful after all.
>