[lbo-talk] Giuliani: I hope Obama has read Amity Shlaes

Dorene Cornwell dorenefc at gmail.com
Mon Jan 26 12:40:38 PST 2009


CBO's?

TLA overload! Could you please spell out?

Thanks

DoreneC

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM, John Gulick <john_gulick at hotmail.com>wrote:


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> My father was in the CCC, and he loved it. His family was broke, living in
> an unheated house in Jersey City.
> Along came the CCC and he went off to the southwest - by choice! where did
> this "dragooned" thing come
> from? - did some useful work, and sent some money back home. He still talks
> about enthusiastically it 75
> years later, and never misses the chance to say we should do it again.
> Where does this shit come from?
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> Dwayne wrote:
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> Ditto for my Grandfather. In his final years, there were two things he
> fondly remembered (and vividly described)
> from the Age of Wireless: one was the CCC, which delivered him from
> crushing, empty belly poverty.
> John writes:
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> Seriously, these two testimonies are really moving, and tragically speak to
> unrealized possibilities today. Maybe
> this just reflects my crusader's cause of late (if you haven't noticed),
> but I believe (without sufficient empirical backing,
> perhaps) that one of the biggest obstacles to a cool thang, nouveau CCC are
> the dozens of nominally progressive
> green 401C3's (and I'm not talking about malevolent Big Green here,
> malevolent though Big Green may be).
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> Umm... how do I say this politely, without painting in huge brushstrokes?
> Too many of these CBO's are run by egomaniac
> mini-empire builders, who prefer serving as middlemen allocators of
> government outlays, rather than banding together with
> like-minded organizations (and moreover their constituencies) to press for
> really huge increases in government largesse, initiatives
> that might involve direct relationships between government agencies and
> grassroots folks, with the middlemen cut out. The leaders
> and spokespeople of such CBO's talk a good green social democratic game
> (which is tough for me to admit, because I'm wont to
> harshly criticize people simply at the level of discourse), but in practice
> too many are self-promoting "social entrepreneurs." (The
> widespread valence of this term in the 401C3 world should in and of itself
> be cause for suspicsion and moreover... revulsion.)
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> Of course I'm not going to name names here, of course there are many
> excellent people in the movement, and of course the
> problems are deeply structural... but I'm just sayin'...
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