[lbo-talk] Christian Parenti interviews me on the bust

socialismorbarbarism socialismorbarbarism at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 12:40:31 PDT 2009


Doug H to C. Parenti: "The auto industry has been vilified as dinosaur-like or fully incompetent, whereas the financial sector has pretty much gotten a blank check. GM and Chrysler have had to submit all kinds of elaborate plans for restructuring, and they had to argue for their long-term viability. JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs never had to go through that. In this culture there is something about people who make things, they have a much lower prestige than people who trade in fictitious capital."

I watched some of the ritualistic humiliation, under the name of "hearings," of auto industry execs (who deserve public humiliation, but for different reasons) and I don't think relatively vague concepts like "prestige" are necessary to explain why the "culture" devalues production. Production requires a proletariat; and the auto industry not only produced the quintessential American proletarian, but allowed (yes, "allowed"--think like a particularly reactionary representative of capital now) that proletarian to--gasp!--provide a decent living for one household, get medical coverage and old-age pensions, and by extension "allowed" some of that over-privileged, greedy proletariat to think of not only wanting but expecting more--hey, it was only 35 years ago, y'know. Representatives from both parties (especially from the South, bless their hearts) were more or less explicit about this; the idea that "the unions" would be allowed anything, even vague promises of getting their supposedly contractually-guaranteed pensions from some sorta-kinda claim on future earnings, simply galled these representatives of the people to no end. "You losers couldn't keep your workers in line and damned if we're going to help you"--that was the all-but-explicit message. Didn't anybody else hear this?

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Doug Henwood<dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
> Christian Parenti interviews me (with the assistance of respectable
> quantities of red wine):
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